JAKARTA - Tensions occurred between former FPI official Munarwan and Najwa Shihab in the talk show Mata Najwa. At that time, Najwa discussed Munarman's presence in the initiation of ISIS in Makassar, South Sulawesi.

"I (in Makassar) told about geostrategy, global geopolitics, how America with run corporation documents do counter terrorism based on two documents, namely treat persistent and then in their own word," said Munarman, quoted from Mata Najwa YouTube channel, Saturday, April 10.

For that reason, Munarman claimed, his deliberate arrival in the ISIS initiation ceremony was untrue because he was not informed of it.

"I do not know because I was invited in Makassar City, because my material is so, I was offered, because my ticket the next day just came home," said Munarman.

"Afternoon they offer, tomorrow there is more he said, come with me there, I think it's the same, do not know there it is, I do not know how, people do not know," Munarman added.

Responding to Munarman's defense, Najwa Shihab then asked if Munarman had ever clarified to the police about this matter. An annoyed Munarman then mentions Najwa Shihab provoking him for giving him a trick question.

"What is a criminal act I invited? Why should I clarify? That was it!" said Munarman in a high-pitched tone.

"You ask me to be called? Then you asked me to be called, right? Don't drive. It's herding, not asking. In legal theory, it's a trick question. That's dangerous for opinion. That trap, (your) provocation," Munarman said.

At the end of the talk show, Najwa delivered some of his small notes related to recent acts of terrorism. According to him, acts of terror always have a message in it.

"The attacks carried out by the sole perpetrators, obviously not to make the whole enemy so dated. The reckless act of attacking the police headquarters alone, is the message that they will always be there."


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