JAKARTA - British Defense Minister Ben Wallace revealed a tactic that Ukraine could use to defeat Russia, instead of a'magic stick' to help on the battlefield, when asked about the possibility of a supply of fighter jets for Kyiv.

Defense Minister Wallace has not ruled out possible jet deliveries, but has said warplanes are not what Ukraine needs right now and there are practical issues to consider, such as months for its use exercises.

"There is no magic stick in this conflict that has caught this attention," Minister Wallace told reporters in Portsmouth, southern England, the location of the naval base.

He spoke at a press conference with foreign ministers as well as the British and Australian defense, following a meeting discussing trade and security issues.

After Ukraine gained a hard commitment from Western countries to provide tank fighting Russia's invasion last month. Attention has turned to whether Britain, the United States, and other allies will consider Kyiv's request to provide warplanes. The United States has ruled out jet deliveries.

Wallace's answer was not very clear, but he said what Ukraine needed now was to strengthen ground troops, leveling Russia's tactics with human wave attacks from World War I, when solidly concentrated infantry invaded the defense forces.

"What Ukraine needs is the ability to form military formations in the field to use joint weapons maneuvers to repulse Russian troops," he explained.

"Because that's how you beat the human wave attacks currently carried out by Russia... They use the type of attack like the First World War, taking into account the casualties," he explained.

Separately, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said in an interview with Talk TV that aired Thursday evening Britain "always spoke" to Ukraine about the support it needed.

"Our desire and goal is for Ukraine to win this conflict," said PM Sunak.

"So, it's not only the equipment, but also the accompanying capabilities and training, along with our ally's plan to ensure that they can win," he said.

Earlier, a spokesman for PM Sunak said on Thursday, the fastest time a pilot learned to fly a British fighter jet was 35 months.


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